Feb 252018
 

concealed handgun or notEveryone wants a Concealed Handgun Permit but what is a concealed handgun? One of the local gun shops recently asked me to tell them what constitutes a concealed handgun in Colorado. To be honest I thought I knew what it meant but I was not sure of what the statutes say it means. So first let’s learn some things about the law. First of all, I’m not an Attorney and anything I say here is for informational purposes not legal advice. I get a lot of good information from Attorneys that are knowledgeable about gun laws and the laws of self-defense and I try not to stretch the meaning of any of those laws. Second, most people including myself until recently do not realize that the statutes in Colorado are what the legislature intended for the law to mean. The actual meaning of the law is decided in the state appellate courts and the state supreme court. So without reading the appropriate case law, you may not really know what the law actally means.

C.R.S. § 18-12-105 
A weapon is concealed on your person if it is placed out of sight so as not to be discernible or apparent by ordinary observation.1
1. People ex rel. O.R., App.2008, 220 P.3d 949, rehearing denied.
Read the case here.

If you go to the bottom of the page in the statute (C.R.S. § 18-12-105   )  you will see the annotations. This is where these cases are listed.

If the weapon is only partially concealed – for instance, by a holster — it is not concealed for purposes of 18-12-105 C.R.S. As long as a casual observer would recognize it as a weapon, you have not violated the law against carrying a concealed weapon.

However, the weapon does not have to be in your hand or something you are touching or wearing. It is considered concealed “on your person” if it is within easy reach.2

2. People in Interest of R. J. A., App.1976, 556 P.2d 491, 38 Colo.App. 346 (look this one up on your own)

 

When is concealed carry legal in Colorado?

You may legally carry a concealed weapon in Colorado if:
1.  You are in your own dwelling or place of business or on property you own or that is under your control.
2.  You are in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance and carrying the weapon for the lawful protection of your or someone else’s property while traveling.
3.  You hold a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon and are not carrying it in a place where concealed carry is prohibited by law (such as a public school or courthouse).
4.  You are going on a legitimate hunting or fishing trip with a hunting or fishing knife.
5.  You are a peace officer carrying a weapon in conformance with department policy.
6.  You are an on-duty United States probation officer or pretrial services officer serving in Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States.
7.  You are carrying a knife with a blade that is less than 3 1/2″ long.

DISCLAIMER: Have Gun Will Train Colorado and Rick Sindeband does NOT give legal advice. You should seek competent legal advice if you own a firearm for self-defense. Discuss the legal ramifications of firearms and self-defense with a knowledgeable attorney who specializes in CRIMINAL LAW in your local jurisdiction. Law, both statutory and common, regarding self-defense varies widely from one area to the next and is constantly changing. Only accept legal advice on firearms and/or self-defense from the POLICE or OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES OR OFFICIALS if it is in writing on official letterhead signed by a sworn senior supervisory official of that department in his or her official capacity or a current official document of that department bearing the department’s insignia and signed by the current head of the department (Chief of Police, Sheriff, or Special Agent In Charge). Verbal (not in writing) advice from law enforcement personnel may be in error and will have NO standing in a court of law.

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Feb 262018
 

Pueblo City Park Gun Range

Pueblo City Park Gun Range Shooting LanesThe 10 lane gun range at Pueblo City Park has a long history it has been at this location forPueblo City Park Shooting Range Rules over 50 years. Many member and non-members use the facility thru out the year. The gun range is primarily a handgun range some .22 cal rimfire rifles are allowed. In the handgun arena, no handguns bigger than a .44 mag are allowed and no handguns firing shotshells are permitted. That means a .50 Cal S&W is not allowed or a .454 Casual. But it can be confusing .45 ACP and .45 Long Colt are allowed. No rifles firing centerfire ammunition, so the 9mm carbines are off limits, and any of the AR pistols are out. When in doubt don’t shoot.

The Pueblo City Park Gun Range is open to the public Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights Pueblo City Park Gun Rangefrom 7pm-9pm. There is a $10 fee for each shooter. Ear protection and eye protection are provided if you do not have your own. Targets are available for purchase and sometimes ammunition is available. The Pueblo City Park Gun Range will be manned on public nights by some of the finest RSO’s (NRA Range Safety Officers) volunteers. These people are there to see that the non-members abide by the rules and handle their firearms safely. Many of the volunteer staff was trained by me when I was the Chief Range Safety Officer for the range.

The Pueblo City Park Gun Range is open to members 24-7 except when other events are scheduled (Board Meetings, Shooting events and Maintenance). A nominal fee of $2 is charged when members shoot. Each person is responsible to clean up after themselves and leave the facility in better shape than they found it.

Pueblo City Park Gun Range Meeting RoomThere is a nice big meeting room as you walk into the building at the Pueblo City Park Gun Range and this is where I have held many classes over the years. I have trained many students in that room and on the shooting range both for the range and my private classes. The Free Gun Safety Class that is required of all new members was developed and taught in that room by me when I was in charge of that program. Most of the time I hold my firearms classes in my private classroom downtown but sometimes a bigger place is nice with room for many people. As a Certified Instructor with my credentials in place at the range, I have the availability to use the facilities when the need arises. See Fall/Winter Newsletter.

Find the Pueblo City Park Gun Range From Interstate 25, take US Hwy. 50 West to Pueblo Blvd. Head South on PuebloPueblo City Park Gun Range Zoo Parking Lot Blvd. to Goodnight Ave. Turn Left at Goodnight Ave. and head into Pueblo City Park. Drive through the park to the Pueblo Zoo parking lot. The Range building is 50 feet North of the Zoo entrance. If coming from the south turn right on Goodnight and follow directions through the park.

As always I am available for training in a scheduled class or privately. I teach Colorado Concealed Carry Classes regularly as well as teaching people how to handle their gun safely and shoot.


Articles of Interest to Shooters:

1. Shooting Grip Is Important When Shooting
2. Having A Sound Self Defense Strategy
3. Dangerous Parking Lots And Concealed Carry
4. Dry Fire Training Is Important
5. Concealed Carry Permit Renewal Pueblo Colorado

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May 282016
 

How Difficult Is Concealed Handgun Class?

Concealed Handgun ClassWhen considering a  Concealed Handgun Class , people often think about how difficult the class will be, and also how long it will take them to get through the concealed handgun class. When it comes to being a trained concealed handgun owner, this is a question that is often asked, and rightly so. The truth is that handgun class isn’t a walk in the park, but it isn’t something that’s incredibly difficult either. Obviously everyone will have a different view on this because some things come more naturally to certain people and everybody has their own gifts and talents. With that said though, Concealed Handgun Class is something that’s generally not viewed as incredibly difficult or something with a high failure rate. People usually do quite well in their handgun class, provided they devote enough time to paying attention and take their education seriously.

Concealed Handgun Class Can Be Fun

Because people generally have time and money invested in these situations, they tend to put in a lot of effort and work hard into the class. There are some barriers to doing well in handgun class, and these are usually the same barriers that exist with any education class. Obviously if you have a learning disability or something else that makes it tough for you to take in and comprehend information, you might have some trouble with your Concealed Handgun Class. It’s important to always remember thought that your instructors are here for you, and that’s what you are paying for,  so if you have any questions at any time, you can’t be shy about asking them. One of the worst things that you can do is sit back and stay quiet when you don’t understand the course material or need more help with something. Most instructors for handgun class make themselves available outside of normal class time too, either by phone or by email or some other means of communication. They often do this so students have every opportunity to talk to them and make sure that they comprehend the material.Keep in mind that you sign up at a particular school, you can ask to talk to them about the program. This helps to ensure your success because you’ll know if they seem like nice, readily accessible people who are willing to help. If you have a bad feeling that the instructors aren’t nice or don’t seem to genuinely care about the students, then you can keep looking for another school because the quality of the instructors is a big factor in your overall success and satisfaction with any Concealed Handgun Class.

Concealed Handgun Class Information

More Information: If you are considering the idea of taking a handgun class, its incredibly important that you find a source of reliable information about the class and the instructor.  Among the best sources are online reviews for the particular class. One of the popular sites covering  a review for handgun training is this video.  For more information, visit their site by going to this website

 

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Nov 082015
 

The 21 Foot Rule (Not Really a Rule)

According to Massad Ayoob in his book Deadly Force – Understanding Your Right to Self Defense– Ability, Opportunity, and Jeopardy must exist for you to use Deadly Force. “The situation of immediate danger of death or crippling injury is normally determined by the simultaneous presence of three criteria. Different schools use different terminology, but the most widely used and court-proven standard has been in use for decades: Ability, Opportunity, and Jeopardy. “Ability” means that the assailant possesses the power to kill or cripple. “Opportunity” means he is capable of immediately employing that power. “Jeopardy” means that his actions and/ or words indicate to a reasonable, prudent person that he intends to do so and is about to do so.”

Everyone talks about the 21 foot rule this is part of Opportunity…..remember its a study not a rule and you may only be able to introduce it in a legal situation or trial when you can prove that you new about it and have been trained with the drills prior to the incident. In Massad Ayoobs book “Deadly Force” he says “Be Trained! Training is discoverable, and therefore introducible to educate the jury

Ayoob, Massad (2014-11-25) Deadly Force – Understanding Your Right to Self

The Tueller Drill is a self-defense training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife or contact weapon attack when armed only with a holstered handgun. Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, “How Close is Too Close?”A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder. If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a “danger zone” where an attacker presented a clear threat. The Tueller Drill combines both parts of the original time trials by Tueller.

There are several ways it can be conducted:

The “attacker and shooter are positioned back-to-back. At the signal, the attacker sprints away from the shooter, and the shooter unholsters his gun and shoots at the target 21 feet (6.4 m) in front of him. The attacker stops as soon as the shot is fired. The shooter is successful only if his shot is good and if the runner did not cover 21 feet (6.4 m).

A more stressful arrangement is to have the attacker begin 21 feet (6.4 m) behind the shooter and run towards the shooter. The shooter is successful only if he was able take a good shot before he is tapped on the back by the attacker.

If the shooter is armed with only a training replica gun, a full-contact drill may be done with the attacker running towards the shooter. In this variation, the shooter should practice side-stepping the attacker while he is drawing the gun.
You can see the original article by Sergeant Dennis Tueller at this link

Recommended reading for anyone who is serious about concealed carry

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Jul 202015
 

I had an interesting weekend in Victor, Colorado and saw some things that I thought I would discuss with the Concealed Carry Permit flock. Some Concealed Carry Holders are choosing to carry pocket guns and while this is personal choice, I am seeing more and more people do it unsafely. One person I recently met pulled the concealed carry firearm out of his pocket with his fingers in front of the muzzle, and when I asked him about it his response was its a long trigger pull it can’t go off!! (See the video I posted on Facebook) I then questioned him about his pocket holster because I am curios about such things and he responded I don’t need a holster it’s this only thing in my pocket. Well he got part of it right. First of all most of you who know me know that Im not a fan of little concealed carry guns. Yea I know the only gun that counts is the one you have with you when you need it. I think with a little training and wardrobe management a person can carry a reasonable size gun in a decent caliber and be comfortable and safe. With that being said a few things we should all remember about pocket carry for concealed carry. Remember if using as a backup gun ,some states do not allow a second gun to be carried.

1) Use a holster

a. Cover the trigger guard, reducing the chance of a negligent discharge

b. Protect the gun against lint and dirt, pocket carry guns need cleaning and maintenance more often

c. Protect the pocket against the gun’s sharp edges and oil

d. Keep the gun positioned correctly in the pocket, an upside down gun is dangerous and unacessable

e. Prevents the gun from falling out of the pocket during vigorous activity

f. Allows a simple and rapid draw, with some provision to keep the holster in the pocket when the gun is drawn

2) NOTHING should go in the pocket that holds the gun except the gun and the holster.

Pocket concealed carry need not be limited to a small, subcaliber handgun in the side or back pocket of slacks. Various pants, jackets and even some shirts provide many possibilities for effective pocket carry of small, medium and large concealed carry handguns.

Pocket carry has several major advantages:

Comfort,Convenience,Concealment,Retention,

Safety in holstering (take the holster out of the pocket face in a safe direction while holstering the firearm and then replace it in your pocket.

Pre-staging the draw, This is one of the biggest advantages of pocket carry compared to other concealed carry methods.

If trouble may be brewing, the aware concealed carry permit holder may place his or her hand on the gun in a firing grip. A practiced individual should be able to draw and make hits out to seven yards. Be careful where you practice this, it is against the rules at one of our favorite ranges.

In all cases, the handgun in question must be:

Reliable and durable under extreme circumstances, Simple and intuitive to operate, Quick to grip and draw, Well fit to your hand and naturally pointable, Shootable and controllable enough for you to keep multiple rounds on target at cyclic speed (as fast as you can pull the trigger) at close range, with one hand, Powerful enough to consistently penetrate a big guy’s vital organs through commonly worn clothing from all angles with expanding bullets.

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